#110545: "Show the setup card and give more setup information in the game options"
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Подробное описание
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии BGA?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
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• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
-
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
-
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
-
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
I looked at a bug report and saw that it was non-bug due a lack of knowledge about one of the tiles.
Problem is that with this implementation, it's not obvious which tiles have been placed and it is therefore not obvious which tiles we should lookup in the rules before playing...
The implementation already tells us where quests will appear on the next round but that is not all the relevant information on the setup card.
So it would be nice to be able to see that setup card. Possibly with it only showing the parts that are applicable to the number of players in the game.
Alternatively, or in addition to that, the descriptive in the game options could (and IMO should) list those tiles.
Currently, when selecting hard mode when creating the game, I just see a short:
La mise en place avancée modifie la mise en place normale en ajoutant un nouveau lieu et un nouveau combat.
This could contain much more information:
- list explicitly the added cities and (compared to easy mode or to normal mode but I think I would prefer to easy mode)
-- and put in parenthesis the location number and tile so people can look it up in the rules
- list added combats options (Silver Fleet, Golden Mine) also with the relevant tiles code in ()
...
And maybe even add explicitly that players should lookup those tiles in the rules before playing.
This serves two purposes:
- might reduced the risk of non-bug reports
- will help those who don't own the game to choose between the different scenarios.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v120
История отчёта
I agree that player's should need to open the rulebook just to see what the setup consists of, but I don't want to go so far as to start making lists of items underneath the pulldown.
This information is well-suited for the How to Play section, which is a user-editable wiki. That section is also linked to prominently from BGA's new game start page. Meanwhile, if you have succinct changes for the pull-down descriptions, I'm happy to make those too, but it's going to need to be a summary in a few words rather than a list. Just follow up here with rewording suggestions and I'll reopen.
Note that I don't mean the text in the pull-down menus (those have to stand on 1 line) but the text just below once the options has been selected.
For the French version of the wiki that is.
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- Другой номер игрового стола / номер хода
- Помогло ли решить проблему нажатие F5?
- Случилась ли проблема несколько раз? Постоянно? От случая к случаю?
- Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
