#125389: "Prelude Corp options"
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
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Google Chrome v125
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии BGA?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v125
История отчёта
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We not trying to take away players from steam app - same company owns this app and bga ...
If it does really need approval again, how can we start the process of obtaining it?
Again, allowing this option will greatly increase the skill cap of the game, as it is one that almost all of the highest ranked players on steam use.
“ Variants: Deal each player 1 corporation from Prelude,
and 1 from the other corporations. If you want to play a
game without the Prelude cards, you may still keep the 7
project cards and the 5 corporations in the game.”
The above variant is referred to as “Highlight Draw” on the Steam application (it is clearly officially sanctioned and approved by Fryx). But this text also makes clear that you may play the Base Game with *or* without Prelude corps and cards.
The option already exists on the steam app (so has already been approved by Fryx). Of all the changes that could be made to Terraforming Mars on BGA, this really seems like the most important one for competitive players.
It is not a house rule. As Corvus Mortis said, this is not a house rule and is clearly stated as an option in the text of the rule book.
Whether or not this house rule has been sanctioned by Fryx Games for the Steam app is also not inferable from the fact that it is implemented in the Steam app, as neither you nor I know the contract between Asmodee Digital and Fryx. Plus, being another entity altogether, this house rule would need explicit approval for BGA nonetheless, even if they did approve it in the past for Steam.
Note that I'm just clarifying things. I'm not expressing an opinion whether or not this house rule should be implemented or not.
- Dealing one base corporation and one Prelude corporation to each player (known as "highlight draw")
- Playing with Prelude corporations and project cards but without the actual preludes.
The way the rulebook phrases this, it seems clear that these are merely suggestions of variants, and that the game encourages you to mix and match between corporations, preludes and project cards.
And indeed, FryxGames officially sanctioned the variant suggested in this issue for the Steam app.
Furthermore, this is a highly popular variant among competitive players that would strengthen the player base further and bring even more players over to BGA.
That makes it worthy of discussion, at least. I will review my physical copy of the prelude rulebook and discuss this with the developer.
I'm thinking the best option would allow for playing with prelude cards and the 7 (?) extra project cards but not the prelude corporations.
I'm not a big fan of the variant where each player gets 1 prelude corp and one non-prelude corp. That's still annoying for whoever doesn't get Vitor or Point Luna.
And, again, as a reminder to all who voted in this thread and participated in this discussion, I can't promise anything.
Corporations
And default value is go with whatever in selected expansions
And second option Base Game Only (base + corporate era)
Is this good enough?
(Later it can be expanded to support more "official" variants such as 1 from base and one from expansion for example)
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- Помогло ли решить проблему нажатие F5?
- Случилась ли проблема несколько раз? Постоянно? От случая к случаю?
- Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
