#13610: "Professional variant should be treated as a separate game"
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
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Google Chrome v77
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The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
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Google Chrome v77
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
The pro' variant of 6 nimmt is a drastically different game. Over much time, I've noticed that many experienced players tend to prefer either normal-placement or pro' rule and play that way and rarely, or never, the other. Separating them would greatly aid in finding the game that is desired. Furthermore, it often happens that a newer player joins a game that is pro' rules and doesn't know what they're getting into and had a very unpleasant experience.
I'd recommend (with publishers permission) to recolor the logo with a red background for the pro' game.
I will try to get support and votes for this idea. Thanks.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v77
История отчёта
6Nimmt specific at all to me.
Kingdomino (7x7 mode) or RFTG (2 phases/turn) are good examples of games which are just COMPLETELY different @2 or 4 players.
IMO, Mixing the ELO and other things, like game parameters doesn't make any sense for tihs kind of reasons, but... well, doing things in a proper way would probably be a lot of work.
For instance the top couple players in nimmt play only 2-player. Most players that reach the top 5 will never have an opportunity to play them...they will never meet. So 2-player vs 5-player is even a bigger difference than pro vs normal.
The main reason this would be a good idea is that an expert player that only plays normal wont join a pro game (and vice versa) because it hurts their elo and it's not a game they excel at.
One of the best examples of different games in one is checkers (draughts). The 4 variants: Checkers, International Draughts, Brazilian Draughts and Russian Draughts even have separate Wikipedia entries (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Draughts_variants) and especially checkers vs international draughts have completely different player bases.
I am sometimes on a normal game and a pro and I am obliged to go and see the options each time
With this logic, tons of games with expansions or variants will be split into 'different games'.
These two games are as different as the games "Hearts" and "Spades". Although they use the same components and mechanics, the games are completely different. Note: The components for "Hearts" and "Spades" come in the same box, but are considered two different games.
Saboteur and Saboteur2 are sold as two separate games in different boxes, yet for some reason on BGA they are consolidated into one game.
The two "Crew" games are about as different as the two "Saboteur" games, but the names are slightly more different, so this must be the reason they are two games instead of one.
My point is there isn't a hard and fast rule on BGA about this. 6 Nimmt is one of the most popular games and is plagued by this confusion more than other games that I know of.
So I support this request.
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