#161074: "Simultaneous play"
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
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Google Chrome v134
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I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
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Google Chrome v134
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. -
• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
-
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
I know this would represent a lot of work to do correctly but it would be great.
The game is setup for up to 12 players.
Sparkle is meant to be a fast live game, a sequential turn based game with 12 players just can't be that.
This could be solved with a simultaneous play option that could work something like this:
1) Everyone plays his turn at the same time
2) Nobody can see what the other players have done for this round
2a) either until they have validated their round (this is how Railroad Ink work for instance)
2b) or until everyone has validated their round (this is how race for the galaxy works)
3) Once everyone has validated their round, everyone's play displayed in the log and possibly show in some nice manner though (with care taken so that players who aren't at the table when the rounds end can see it too)
4) Game is checked for victory conditions (if multiple players have reached the limit, it is obviously the one with the most points that wins)
5) If no one has won yet, go to next round and start again
If 2b is chosen, you can let players change their mind and make more throws as longs as the game still waits for someone (some games allow this)
I 100% would play the game this way with my friends if it was available. • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v134
История отчёта
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41709
I added simultaneous mode in Yahtzee, Dice Poker and Shut the Box, but in those games other players rarely affect the choice, as almost all cases players have 'optimal' movements.
Farkle is different - Players will (and have to) push their luck many times, even while knowing the chance is slim, because of other players.
- In Farkle, every player except who reached the score limit gets an extra turn.
However, this extra turn is disregarded in this variant.
- Don't forget not every game is meant to be turn-based compatible.
Some games simply don't go well with the turn-based mode (e.g. dexterity, trick-taking).
In short, the suggested variant is not good enough to be implemented.
Sure it changes the tactic a little but it remains a push your luck.
Take a game like 6nimmt, it's kind of a reverse trick taking time and it is simultaneous; it would be quite boring if it wasn't. Or look at a 6 player Race for the Galaxy, 7 wonders, many rolls and writes etc...
And some do allow a part of the game to be simultaneous as an after thought with the option to go back to sequential if a player feels like order is important (Puerto Rico, New Frontiers,...).
The best analogy to Farkle is probably "Pokerdice" which has a simultaneous mode that traditional live play doesn't. Does it change the tactics ? Sure. But it works and most games with more than 2 players are played with simultaneous mode activated.
Simultaneous play, whether inbred in the design or added afterward even partially seriously help toward making a game good in turn-based mode for more than 2-3 players.
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