#52849: "Wrong Highlights that can induce in error and cause erroneous bug reports"
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Подробное описание
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
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This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
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This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
-
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
-
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
Here is one example when moving around locos (top) and another when choosing the advance 1 steel track action (bottom):
imgur.com/3NubNUr
For the first example, the only valid destination for the 4 loco that is currently being moved is to replace the 3 loco. The highlight on the 6 loco and on the construction site are misleading. The highlight on the 4 loco itself would be better if it was different as its role is different.
For the second example, none of the place highlighted can actually be clicked to complete the action.
The only valid place to click that actually works is the first position on the Osaka line.
-------------------------------
This leads also to a generic problem with this implementation in regards to the movement of tracks and industry tokens.
As a generic rule, the current position of the track or industry token is highlighted and you click there to advance it. BUT, there are situation where you have to click where you want the token to go (for instance when you want your industry token to ignore a placed factory and take the shortcut) and there is nothing to tell you that.
This makes people believe that they cannot do certain actions when in fact they can, it is "just" that the interface is opaque and not consistant.
I don't know what the global solution is. Maybe we should *always* target and highlight the destination rather than current "the origin except in a few situations". That or simply make the highlights a lot smarter so as to conform with the actual places where we can click.
As a side note, I think the highlights should be a bit more solid and visible.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v94
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- Случилась ли проблема несколько раз? Постоянно? От случая к случаю?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
