#57959: "Giving a maximum number of cards to be held"
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Подробное описание
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? -
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
-
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
Some gamers have a sort of strategy (impossible in a "real card" game) to continue drawing, reaching a very high number of cards and they play just a couple of times (thanks to the limit of 13 cards to be played at once. Otherwise they would probably wait to have all the cards...).
This is an online strategy, but this also means the other player usually plays alone, till the last 2 or 3 moves where all the cards of the first gamer are played (and the match is obviuosly lost, because the other did not play, but just organised his/her cards as in a solitary game).
With real cards this would be impossible. Maybe it could be good to set a max number of cards to be held (with some penalty if a gamer does not play a card in a number of moves, or something like that).
Is this just a feeling of mine? • Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v97
История отчёта
www.pagat.com/rummy/carousel.html#machiavelli
I won't add any other fancy rule.
The effect of this tactic is to drive away players who want to play and new players. Soon, these players will lose interest in the game because of the tactics of some.
Machiavelli Arena stats
Season Games. Players
S0 824 142
S1 3074 255
S2 2153 175
S3 1896 178
S4 3235 232
S5 2617 230
S6 1218 175
S7 884 160
S8 822 157
I fully agree with the complaints already made on this subject. Penalties do not exist in the real game and on the site, they were introduced to PENALIZE a player who does not respect the rules, but it turns out that in the end, they favor those who cheat!!! Couldn't we simply remove these penalties which completely divert the objective of the game, which in my opinion, is to improve one's strategy instead of seeking to win at all costs, in defiance of the rules of the game and one's opponents? ? Especially since when faced with this type of player, I systematically ask for the game to be abandoned, and this is systematically refused by the cheater!!!! They tell me that I just have to cheat too!!! I really like Machiavelli but it is more and more difficult to play "normally" and many of the "friends" I used to play with have abandoned the site for this reason....
The only addition is the 13 cards limit.
As Pagat says, "A general problem with manipulation rummy games is that laying down sets and runs helps the other players by giving them extra manipulation possibilities. The result is that players tend to hoard cards, waiting for others to meld, and hoping to go out by playing their whole hand at once. One solution to this problem is to limit the number of cards that can be played on one turn"...
There have been several changes made since the beginning (2013) and removing penalties doesn't prevent people from hoarding.
Добавить что-нибудь к этому отчёту
- Другой номер игрового стола / номер хода
- Помогло ли решить проблему нажатие F5?
- Случилась ли проблема несколько раз? Постоянно? От случая к случаю?
- Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
