#75818: "Allow food conversion and rearranging animals at any time (not only when it's your turn)"
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
I very much appreciate that most actions while the harvest phase are automated.
However, having to convert goods into food and arranging the newborn animals are still taking a lot of time while the harvest phase (especially in the last rounds), because one has to wait for each single player to finish these tasks. If converting food and arranging animals would be possible while another player's turn, it might save a good amount of time in the harvest phase, because experienced players can prepare for the phase in advance without others having to wait for this action.
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v107
История отчёта
"You may rearrange your animals on your Home board whenever and how often you like as long as you abide by the following rules." and "To feed your Dwarfs, you may convert goods into Food at any time (without constraints). "
Another solution would be to perform the harvest phase simultaneously, which was rejected before because the decision of one player might influence other players.
I added a comment to the other proposal request, because i didn't find the spot in the rules that states the harvest phase should be played one after another player.
Also, animals reorganization is automatic, it only need human action if you don't have enough room for them.
So yeah that could speed the game a bit, but not sure it's worth the complexity of code.
Which also means you should never have to discard an animal. After Breeding, if you have too many animals and not enough space, you would immediately convert them into Food.
This is not Agricola, where they wander off and you lose the benefit of breeding completely.
I know its a fair amount more programming but it would be enough to make me play it much more because the down time on others turn in this game can suck, especially when you can see, oh i want to just move those animals over there while I wait but I can't.
I would be satisfied if instead of "anytime", conversions and rearranging were simultaneous only during the harvest phase. Permitting other players to make swooshing noises and movements during your turn could be distracting while you are trying to think.
That said, the current situation of forcing you to wait while 2-6 other player perform their conversions 1-by-1 explode the playtime in such a way that is insufferable. This might be the only game where I think live play could beat BGA for playtime, and it's entirely for this reason. The expected playtime for a BGA 4 player game is reported as 2:40, and the harvest phase is probably contributing 30 minutes to that total.
The argument that someone might change their harvest based on my harvest is such an infinitely narrow use case, I fail to recognize the validity of the argument. At the very least, simultaneous harvests could be an option, and the current "excruciating mode" should be made a non-default toggle.
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- Помогло ли решить проблему нажатие F5?
- Случилась ли проблема несколько раз? Постоянно? От случая к случаю?
- Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
