#86291: "Allow peeking in phase B (as an option)"
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Подробное описание
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
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You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
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This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
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In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
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As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
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In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
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• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
-
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
-
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть скриншот этой ошибки (что является хорошей практикой), вы можете использовать любой сервис для размещения изображений (например, snipboard.io), чтобы загрузить его и скопировать/вставить ссылку сюда. Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
-
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Какой браузер вы используете?
Google Chrome v102
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