#162: "Winner when deck ends"
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Подробное описание
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
From move 7 on.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
From move 7 on.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
From move 7 on.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
From move 7 on.• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
From move 7 on.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
From move 7 on.• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
In Machiavelli wins the one who finish all the cards in his hand, not the one who has less cards when the deck ends. This additional rule is not present in any of the Rules I've browsed, both in English and Italian:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machiavelli_(Italian_card_game)
A player can exploit this rule by picking up as much card as possible (3 every turn as a penalty) and then discard fastly many cards towards the end. But this strategy cannot be adopted in the original version of the game, and it's actually quite ruining the game experience• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Google Chrome v31
История отчёта
We are thinking about alternatives...
When a player takes the 3 card penalty the table should be restores as it was AT THE BEGINNING of the round, thing that actually doesn't happen and that made possible to use this bug to get an automatic win in the last round.
You should introduce something to limit this situation ('cause the player who take advantage of this situation is going to do it sistematically in every game he played... and trust me, it's sad that one player plays nasty with this trick and all other users can't do anything ), as
1) To effectively restore the table as it was on the beginning of the round, or
2) Introduce something like a limit to cheat in this way (i.e. after 5 penalties you get the lost game), or
3) Declare the draw if the deck ends (in the original Machiavelli card game the purpose of the game it's to place all the cards in your hand on the table, not trying to finish the deck with less card than your opponent).
If you can try to fix the problem 'cause the situation is really really frustrating... it's like if in any kind of sport someone instead of playing with the rules is taking automatically a win by forfeit
I remember, the purpose of the game it's to play all the cards in your hand, and when the deck finished in the real card game all the players lost, no one should get a win this way.
Now there are more players that use this... let's call "feature" to get a victory.
I repeat, this can let you play in a way that in the real game will give you a loss and make you score a win, this is exactly the opposite of the purpose of the game.
So sad that people who uses this... to me is still a cheat, will improve their record.
1) The first player who finish the cards in his/her hand wins the game
2) When a player reach his/her 5th penalty is disqualified from the game.
If possible please apply this rules to avoid what's happening now on BGA, that more player are going to use this fraudulent way of play to get an automatic win when in the real card game you'll get a loss.
The winning depends only on luck.
The version that is implement is more interesting and depends on tactic.
Noone have to take so much cards that the other can take all, and the game is honest.
I vore to not change the version of this game
I repeat: an admin said
"This is the way the game has been implemented right now, for good reasons (limiting the game duration).
We are thinking about alternatives..."
Now there is no more problem about the game duration with the turn-base games, so I assume it will be better to erase a rule invented on the site (a really nasty one BTW, 'cause it won't concede the chance to play to the players who don't use that cheat) to restore original rules of the game
Добавить что-нибудь к этому отчёту
- Другой ID игрового стола / ID хода
- Помогло ли решить проблему нажатие F5?
- Случилась ли проблема несколько раз? Постоянно? От случая к случаю?
- Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.