#63198: "Deal making should be a simultaneous turn, with required action (even if it's just "do nothing")"
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• Пожалуйста, скопируйте текст ошибки, которую вы видите на экране (если она есть).
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Пожалуйста, объясните, что вы хотели сделать, что вы сделали и что случилось
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Что было изображено на экране, когда вас заблокировало? (Пустой экран? Часть игрового стола? Сообщение об ошибке?)
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Какая часть правил не соблюдена в версии БГА
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Видно ли нарушение правил в повторе игры? Если да, то на каком ходу?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Какое игровое действие вы хотели совершить?
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Что вы пытались сделать, чтобы выполнить это игровое действие?
• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали сделать это (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• На каком шаге игры произошла проблема (какой была текущая игровая инструкция)?
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Что произошло, когда вы попробовали совершить игровое действие (сообщение об ошибке, сообщение в строке состояния игры...)?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Пожалуйста, опишите ошибку отображения. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Пожалуйста, скопируйте/вставьте текст, который отображается на английском языке, вместо вашего. Если у вас есть снимок экрана с этой ошибкой (хорошая привычка), вы можете воспользоваться Imgur.com, чтобы загрузить его и вставить сюда ссылку.
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Доступен ли этот текст в системе перевода? Если да, был ли он переведён более 24 часов назад?
• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
• Пожалуйста, точно и кратко опишите своё предложение, чтобы сделать его наиболее доступным для понимания.
When a deal is started, there should be a simultaneous turn for *all* players, where they *must* take an action, even if the action is just "pass", "do nothing", "wait", or whatever it's called.
* The other actions would be playing cards, making an offer, or breaking down the deal.
* Whenever someone (including the boss) takes an action (not "pass"), the players who already chose "pass" must choose an action again.
* The boss cannot conclude the deal until all other players have chosen to "pass".• Какой обозреватель вы используете?
Mozilla v5
История отчёта
Have you ever played the boardgame?
If it's just an "act fast" game (like dobble/spot it), then turn-based game should simply be disabled.
I was in favour to disable turn based game, but it seems that players are in favour to have it...
But the manual says the boss should say something like "going once, going twice, gone" before concluding the deal, which (to me) obviously indicates that the other players should have a chance of doing something, even if the boss doesn't want them to.
I'm not opposed to having a turn-based option per se, but as it is now I believe it is not working. I have to actively go online and enter the table to see if by any chance there's any deal going on, where I may have something to say. You said elsewhere that you can always play cards while a deal is still open, but that's not true. First, you have to wait for a deal to be open (and there's no notification about it), and second, while the game is asking another player whether or not they want to play a stop card, I can't do anything. So I can only look into the table from time to time, and be lucky enough that I catch a moment where I can play my boss/travel/recruitment card (on other people's turn).
This is already annoying in real time (there should always be some forced wait, maybe 10 seconds, before a deal is concluded so others have time to play cards), but in turn-based mode it's completely game-breaking.
I have read the rules, but I have never played this game before.
I don't think it should be required for anybody to go and buy a boardgame, set up a game night with friends, and try out the game before playing a game on boardgamearena.
I think online play at boardgamearena makes games that are unavailable, or too expensive to play in real life, accessible to a larger audience.
Requiring real-world knowlegde of a game is against the spirit of BGA in my personal opinion.
The role a developer on boardgamearena is a very turbulent. I certainly understand there are many technical and cultural and social challenges to try to overcome. Games on BGA should be as enjoyable as possible, and this sometimes includes listening to the feedback that players are raising, especially for games in BETA status.
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